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Gas Prices Fall 50 cents On Order To Release “Winter Gas”

Fox40 -- SACRAMENTO-Who knew there even was such a thing as “winter gasoline?” Did you?

But now it’s winter gas to the rescue, hitting stations about three weeks early under orders from the Governor.

“Wholesale gasoline in California fell about 50 cents when this became public,” said Dave Clegern, with the State Air Resources Board.

We had to ask, if winter gas is so much cheaper, why not make it all-year-round gas?

“In the summer that stuff tends to evaporate way too fast, and go way too far,” Clegern said.

When it comes to winter gasoline, we are fortunate in Northern California to have seen our temperatures drop over the last few days. We’re already in the right range to sell that less environmentally friendly fuel.

It’s the air in Southern California that’s most in danger

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Submitted Oct 09, 2012 By: aservant

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DesertRat2011 Champion Author Riverside Posts:3,607 Points:483,855 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 10:47:25 AM Ignore DesertRat2011 Report Abuse Sure haven't dropped 50 cents around here in So. Cal.
LQQKGAS Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,663 Points:1,194,145 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 10:44:44 AM Ignore LQQKGAS Report Abuse Prices must be manipulated if they can drop .50¢ on an order.
Hobby001 Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,093 Points:1,183,090 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 6:48:34 AM Ignore Hobby001 Report Abuse Speculators that support Obama are allowing the price to fall now; wait until the election is over.
J Eric Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:10,264 Points:2,069,980 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 10:59:38 PM Ignore J Eric Report Abuse Although winter gas is now being sold, prices have not dropped to as low as they were a month ago; that is, I paid $4.399 today for USA regular (a low-priced brand). Seems to me gas should be maybe 10 cents or more less to end the "spike."
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,609 Points:1,608,545 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 5:42:21 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse werich: funny but good point.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,609 Points:1,608,545 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 5:41:49 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse I won't hold my breath. But then, winter fuel is just getting started being refined, IIRC. Good luck CA!
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,596 Points:1,203,730 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 11:27:31 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Winter Gas is NOT sitting around....it has to be refined first. The price drop will happen soon.
jtravis711 Sophomore Author Orange County Posts:174 Points:196,515 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 10:40:59 AM Ignore jtravis711 Report Abuse Will use up the higher cost supply thats at the pumps first. Thats a fact.California is too restrictive and that hurts all of us.
TuanCanCook Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:11,903 Points:655,565 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 10:24:16 AM Ignore TuanCanCook Report Abuse That 50 cent wholesale price drop has still not trickled down to the consumer as of this morning.
MAJB Sophomore Author Indianapolis Posts:226 Points:109,435 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 9:40:50 AM Ignore MAJB Report Abuse Every little bit helps
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,970 Points:2,344,535 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 4:55:35 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Gas Prices Fall 50 cents On Order To Release “Winter Gas” but is 50 cents enough to matter that much? The US ‘oil and natural gas resources’ belong to the citizens of this country and are to be used by those same citizens! Speculators, manipulators and the banks continue to unfairly and unjustly make the driving public pay higher prices at the pump for their personal benefit. How much will gas prices go up and they will rise, the trend is always up with fuel prices. The price at the pump needs to go down to $2/gallon, $3, $3.50/gallon or $4.00 is Not the new low! Big Oil continues to sell fuel and natural gas on the world market for higher prices, there will be NO price reduction for the cost of fuel or natural gas IN the US. 'Coming out of the closet' Fred's lousy, smoke and mirrors, lack of jobs, dog and pony show and in the crapper economy, the jobs are Not here. Fred's economy is not improving but continues to hurt the population and the job numbers continue to be down – no matter how smoooooth talking Fred spins those numbers! People will still drive and buy fuel no matter what but it sure helps to have a job too! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
firefly09 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,493 Points:715,745 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 2:35:27 AM Ignore firefly09 Report Abuse It hasn't droped here yet. When it does, it will not be low enough.
crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,980 Points:2,525,360 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:23:29 AM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse ok
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,846 Points:1,611,275 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:11:08 AM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse “Who knew there even was such a thing as ‘winter gasoline’? Did you?” Sure did; we never fill our farm tank during summer-gas season. We fill in the spring while winter gas is still available, then use it down and fuel vehicles at nearby stations, if necessary, until winter gas comes back in September. We often get thru the summer without buying any outside gas.
HYEgasCA Champion Author Fresno Posts:2,111 Points:909,250 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:09:50 AM Ignore HYEgasCA Report Abuse Not only is there winter gasoline, in all of CA they have more then 2 dozen summer blends. Meaning if if one refinary goes under, you have some problems. For instance whats going on now! Nothing but idiots......Gov Brown and all the other CA Baboons!!
Quick68 Champion Author Columbus Posts:8,218 Points:1,224,825 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:09:09 AM Ignore Quick68 Report Abuse Winter gasoline in California?
madison8359 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:9,003 Points:1,591,345 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:08:43 AM Ignore madison8359 Report Abuse Are you kidding, this is crazy.
J4romeo All-Star Author Gary Posts:506 Points:1,214,925 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:08:00 AM Ignore J4romeo Report Abuse not here
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Ray_10589 Champion Author New York Posts:4,941 Points:1,182,010 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:07:31 AM Ignore Ray_10589 Report Abuse I do not believe it ...
Cashless Champion Author Akron Posts:3,510 Points:733,105 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:06:51 AM Ignore Cashless Report Abuse With each passing day, more BS.
don10 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:1,517 Points:308,405 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:04:00 AM Ignore don10 Report Abuse ok
1fulltank Champion Author Buffalo Posts:7,898 Points:1,543,335 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:03:01 AM Ignore 1fulltank Report Abuse They can really use the relief.
obimerrill Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,435 Points:288,740 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:02:40 AM Ignore obimerrill Report Abuse It's still a problem of their own making so I don't feel that sorry for them.
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,527 Points:1,856,420 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:02:23 AM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse Didn't drop here!, lol
dld1295 Sophomore Author Detroit Posts:175 Points:342,960 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 12:01:12 AM Ignore dld1295 Report Abuse no
heydano67 Champion Author California Posts:1,661 Points:356,560 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:58:58 PM Ignore heydano67 Report Abuse Must be in the wholesale cost, because retails haven't dropped yet.
carpenter4u Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,436 Points:614,895 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:58:15 PM Ignore carpenter4u Report Abuse tells you that fuel formulas cost money
C.Carpets All-Star Author Oakland Posts:543 Points:2,088,260 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:56:09 PM Ignore C.Carpets Report Abuse Prices have NOT fallen. Maybe tomorrow but not today.
WIWalt Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,724 Points:414,755 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:55:51 PM Ignore WIWalt Report Abuse Went down at the expence of diesel
SammyAdams Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:3,049 Points:791,770 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:55:40 PM Ignore SammyAdams Report Abuse "Wholesale Prices" might have fallen, but I see no evidence that the price at the pump has made that adjustment yet. Perhaps when the wholesalers can first sell their inventory of this higher priced fuel
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,464 Points:1,709,885 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:55:14 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse definitely not a coincidence
mattpolska Veteran Author Winnipeg Posts:298 Points:82,570 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:54:46 PM Ignore mattpolska Report Abuse thats funny cuz its been snowing since last week here in winnipeg and gas isnt falling what gives
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,777 Points:642,860 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:54:12 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse California problems are national problems.
SandeeC Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,988 Points:460,030 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:52:36 PM Ignore SandeeC Report Abuse Isn't it amazing at all the names they come up with just to charge higher prices?
Vetteblu Champion Author Denver Posts:2,665 Points:778,870 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:49:35 PM Ignore Vetteblu Report Abuse Constant bs from oil companies.
J Eric Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:10,264 Points:2,069,980 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:47:57 PM Ignore J Eric Report Abuse Fox 40 is wrong. Gasoline prices have NOT fallen, in fact they rose by 1/2 cent per gallon down here, and it was reported tonight by KNX (CBS Radio) that the record-high prices continue throughout the state. Our air's not dirty; just the politicians. [Edited by: J Eric at 10/9/2012 11:49:13 PM EST]
chuckhermann All-Star Author New York Posts:957 Points:498,225 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:45:56 PM Ignore chuckhermann Report Abuse So what, exactly, caused prices to fall?
PizzaMon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:5,134 Points:1,860,655 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:44:55 PM Ignore PizzaMon Report Abuse Keep it in Cali.
Ken2OD Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:9,062 Points:1,969,990 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:40:49 PM Ignore Ken2OD Report Abuse We hear the same excuses every year.
drobbbb Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,470 Points:810,510 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:39:56 PM Ignore drobbbb Report Abuse need more refineries
ItsMorph Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:33,422 Points:3,184,205 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:39:03 PM Ignore ItsMorph Report Abuse And diesel shot UP....go figure.
TXRanger09 Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,502 Points:890,220 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:37:37 PM Ignore TXRanger09 Report Abuse What price do you put on clean air? But then again, if your working for your gas tank, whats the harm in seeing the air you breath? I guess Southern California is too unique.
lucky69 Champion Author Austin Posts:2,761 Points:1,466,715 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:33:28 PM Ignore lucky69 Report Abuse gas prices are falling because of the election, afterwards, winter or no, they will rise.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,061 Points:1,730,260 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:31:27 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse over regulation equals higher prices....SEE
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,120 Points:1,353,810 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:31:26 PM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse If you don't think some Winter Gas should be more expensive NOT LESS try these links. 3. Additives. 3.1 Antiknock ... In cold weather , too little volatility results in cars failing to start. .... The lower energy content (per litre) of LPG in comparison to gasoline is due mainly to its lower density. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline) Diesel fuel is prone to waxing or gelling in cold weather; (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_diesel_fuel) The Clean Air Act requires use of oxygenated gasoline in areas where winter time ... emissions from gasoline-fueled vehicles tend to increase in cold weather. (http://www.epa.gov/otaq/fuels/gasolinefuels/winterprograms/index.htm) [Edited by: TIGERPAW46 at 10/9/2012 11:32:28 PM EST]
Kamakani Champion Author Denver Posts:2,677 Points:1,274,200 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:30:00 PM Ignore Kamakani Report Abuse We need some of that winter gas here too.
jem069 Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,533 Points:686,105 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:29:52 PM Ignore jem069 Report Abuse Ok
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,568 Points:2,900,145 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:29:08 PM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse Ain't seen that price fall here in LaLa land.. not yet anyway.
RBob Champion Author Portland Posts:3,364 Points:2,345,925 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 11:26:01 PM Ignore RBob Report Abuse Good luck in seeing lower retail prices ... you will need the luck.