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Auto Black Boxes: Will They Invade Your Privacy?

The Wall Street Journal -- If you thought having EZ Pass in your car would make it too easy for the government to track you, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

The Senate passed a bill in March that calls for “mandatory event data recorders” (or black boxes) to be installed in all new passenger motor vehicles, starting with the 2015 models, and which would record data before, during or after a crash, according to KurzweilAI.net.

The bill, which can be seen here, has a privacy provision but gives the government the authority to access the black box in a number of circumstances, including court order, consent of the owner, an investigation or inspection, or to determine the need for emergency responses.

If you thought having EZ Pass in your car would make it too easy for the government to track you, you ain’t seen nothing

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Submitted Apr 24, 2012 By: angel4me

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